Family Procedure Rules 2010, PD 30A, para 4.22 provides: ‘In most cases, applications for permission to appeal will be determined without the court requesting— (a) submissions from; or (b) if there is an oral hearing, attendance by the respondent.’ In relation to the costs of an application for permission to appeal, FPR 2010, PD 30A, para 4.23 provides that where the court does not request submissions from or attendance by the respondent, costs will not normally be allowed to a respondent who volunteers submissions or attendance and FPR 2010, PD 30A, para 4.24 states that where the court does request submissions from, or attendance by, the respondent, the court will normally allow the costs of the respondent if the application for permission is refused. The suggestion therefore is that if submissions from, or attendance by, a respondent in relation to an application for permission are required by the court, it will be